Archive for March, 2010

Researching the address

Wednesday, March 31st, 2010

I’ve been researching the house where the kidnapping took place, and made some thought-provoking discoveries.

Before I get to that, I want to state emphatically that the idea of a Hafeem, a person who ages very slowly but does age, makes perfect sense to me. It should have been obvious before, but I will admit that if I thought of it earlier, it slipped my mind entirely, and all credit goes to Glenn for identifying both the term and the concept in the material we’ve been analyzing.

Keeping that in mind, the following facts about the house where Flyss saw the BH kidnap, or at least transport, an old man bear consideration.

(1) The house has been in possession of a single family for over 140 years.

(2) The current owner of the house has never been photographed for a driver’s license, passport or any other public document.

(3) There are no records of him having ever attended school in the US. This takes on greater significance considering point 2, specifically in regards to the passport.

(4) Nor are there any publicly documented name changes.

(5) The house was occupied for some time by a family with children (hence the children’s slide visible in the photo), but that family moved out in 1987 and left the country. I can find no evidence of where they moved to, and they have not been back.  They left behind no relatives in the United States.

(6) Since 1987, a succession of caretakers has been employed on the property. They are paid directly from the offices of a bank in Switzerland and hired by those Swiss bankers. Needless to say, I can get no information from that direction.

(7) Perhaps most interesting of all, ten years ago an entire shipping container arrived by truck at the house, and was unloaded by hired men who have also disappeared from sight. According to one neighbor, the container appeared to contain canned food. — Stephen

(thread continued in this post)

The mind whirls

Wednesday, March 31st, 2010

At that news, my mind whirls.  FDR? You might not have known this, Flyss, but he’s famously one of the Illuminati.

I can hardly tear my mind away from speculation on that theme to to finish my own thread. But I shall force myself.

Here’s what I think a Hafeem is: The words “a a age ages but does hafeem is person slowly very very who” are an alphabetization of “A Hafeem is a person who does age, but ages very, very slowly.”

Stephen, in a previous post you mentioned the hypothesis of the “aging clock.”  We’ve all been focusing on one the possibilities you mentioned, that it could be turned off.  But you also note that it could simply be slowed down. Wouldn’t that lead to a person who does age, just very, very slowly?  – Glenn

(general thread continued in this post. Specific FDR thread continued in this post.)

I sure hope I kept you up all night

Wednesday, March 31st, 2010

Thanks a lot for throwing in your own bit of suspense, when everyone was waiting on my news. I sure hope I kept you up all night.

Just kidding. Jeeze, what the heck is a Hafeem?

Here’s  my final weirdness contribution: I got one good look at the old man in the wheelchair, and I felt sure I recognized him, though I didn’t know from where.

Then it dawned on me.  I was thinking of the man in the photo below.  I couldn’t swear to it, but it looked an awful lot like this guy. — Flyss

For those of you who are like some of my friends and don’t know any history, this is the only known photo of FDR in a wheelchair.

[postscript: in a later post, I realize that I’d imagined the FDR similarity.]

(continued in this post)

The term “Hafeem”

Tuesday, March 30th, 2010

I have noticed the term Hafeem, yes. And that pattern of words you mention.  What do you think it means? — Stephen

It just struck me

Tuesday, March 30th, 2010

Something just struck me.

Stephen, have you noticed the repetition of the word “hafeem” in our encoded messages? And did you find this text: “a a age ages but does hafeem is person slowly very very who.”

It just might explain the old man. — Glenn

I’ll bite

Tuesday, March 30th, 2010

I’ll bite on your other news.  Not because I have any need to forget your “screwup,” as you call it: my own many errors encrust my eyes like cataracts, and I can’t see any fault in you.

But us old paranoid conspiracy theory types are a wee bit more than slightly given to curiosity. If whatever news you have is stranger than the story you’ve already told — the BH kidnapping an old man who lives underground — I will have to stay up all night waiting for your post.  –  Glenn

That train’s left the station

Tuesday, March 30th, 2010

Rethink our strategy with the BH?  Well that train’s left the station already. My GPS tracker stopped transmitting about twelve hours after he started chasing me. So I guess he found it.  Which means he’ll probably take a heck of lot more precautions in the future, and we’re not going to be able to keep track of him like we planned.

Whoops. My bad.

But I have other news so exceedingly weird it might make you all forget my screwup. — Flyss

Perhaps we need to rethink our strategy

Tuesday, March 30th, 2010

Flyss, I’m terribly glad you’re safe. (Not that I doubted your ability to get away from someone so foolish as to chase you.)

But it does make one wonder.  We latched onto the Bounty Hunter because he was following someone who doesn’t age.  The theory was that we could more easily follow the follower of an immortal than the immortal himself.

But if he’s hunting immortals, what’s he doing taking time out to kidnap an old man in a wheelchair? Admittedly, the old man lives in a shed and has underground tunnels, but he’s an old man, rather by definition not someone who fails to age.

For that matter, what’s the BH doing taking time out to photograph chemical plants and strange transmitting dishes, not to mention chasing you? If he’s an immortal hunter, at the very least he seems to have lost focus.

Perhaps we need to rethink this strategy.– Stephen

Pushing an old man in wheelchair

Tuesday, March 30th, 2010

To continue: When the BH came out of the second shed, he wasn’t alone.  He was pushing a very, very old man in a wheelchair.

Yup.  You read me right.

He pushed the old man from the shed to the house nearby it, as marked on my map.  Here’s a blow up of one of the photos in my previous post.

They spent a long time in the house, and that’s when I made my mistake. I snuck up closer to try to see through a window, but I’m not totally Ms. Deerstalker and I must have cracked a twig. I don’t think he’s so good at walking on tiptoe either because he didn’t try. The guy came roaring out of that house after me like a bull with his pants on fire.  I ran away and got far ahead of him, but I forgot that he could work out where I was going and when I got to my car I took at least three seconds to catch my breath.

That kind of laziness doesn’t fly when you’re fleeing this guy.  He was already roaring up the street in his big fat black Mercedes SUV when I started moving. My little Porsche is a lot faster than that thing but still it took about thirty hours of flat out driving to get away from him. He just doesn’t give up. I got so I thought he could read minds, tap cellphones and maybe smell me. He had me scared enough that even when he really had given up I kept driving for two more days.

(continued in this post) — Flyss

OK, here’s my brilliant map

Monday, March 29th, 2010

OK, here’s my brilliant map.

With a little imagination, you can line it up with the photos in my previous post. (Full disclosure: I’m just making up the path of the underground tunnel because even I’m not stupid enough to go back and explore it.)

(story continued in this post) –Flyss

Underground tunnels

Monday, March 29th, 2010

Finally, the story you’ve been bating your breath for.

Like I mentioned a little bit ago, the BH drove up to southern Colorado, drove around a while (probably to lose any tail, in blissful ignorance of my GPS tracker) then took off down a deserted road to where there were mostly only cows and prairie dogs to notice.  I managed to catch up with him in real time for once, because I peeled up a different road that reached just about the same place, and hiked over in time to catch him disappearing into the little shed I already posted about.

It was starting to snow, so I got under cover in position to watch him come out again. Only he didn’t. After about an hour (and an inch or two of snow) he stepped out of a completely different shed, about a hundred yards from shed #1. Since there was no brush for him to hide behind, he must have gone through an underground tunnel.

But I wasn’t expecting to see him there, so I wasn’t in the right position for taking pictures of the whole scene, and before I could get in a better position he came after me and I had to run.  (More on that later.) That’s my excuse for why I don’t have any one single photo that really captures the lay of the land, anyway.

The first picture below sort of gives a sense of the the distance.

Shed#1, near the bottom left of the photo, is really far up that pasture. Shed#2 isn’t visible in the photo, but it’s just under the green light.

The next photo shows that shed#2 is situated under the green light, but doesn’t show shed #1 at all, so I’m not sure how much it really helps.

I guess you’ll just have to take my word for it that they’re far apart.

To recap, the BH opens the door of shed#1 gun in hand, steps inside and busies himself for a bit, then reappears out the door of shed#2 a hundred yards away.  Since there’s no brush or anything in between he could have hid behind, and I really don’t think he can apparate like Harry Potter, I assume there’s an underground tunnel connecting the two. That’s weird.

But what came next is even weirder. — Flyss

(A few more photos after the fold, also inadequate.)


Actually, that’s almost what it felt like

Sunday, March 28th, 2010

That metaphor you didn’t intend — it was almost right. I was flying down the freeway, but I wasn’t getting anywhere. Like one of those dreams where you’re running but you can’t move. Or, like you really are flying, flap-flap-flapping away, but you never leave the barn because your head’s in a noose.

I pity our friend the Aussie, to have someone like the BH chasing him. The old coot really hangs on. — Flyss

Enjoy your wings

Sunday, March 28th, 2010

Enjoy your wings. (No metaphor intended.) — Kate

OK, safe now

Sunday, March 28th, 2010

OK, safe now. Time out for hot wings, chocolate and some sleep.  Then I’ll tell all. — Flyss

On the run

Friday, March 26th, 2010

He saw me. I’m on the run.  Getting ahead of him, I think. — Flyss


Thursday, March 25th, 2010

Flyss? Are you there? — Kate

Tell me more

Thursday, March 25th, 2010

Is he still in there? — Kate

P.S. I agree, their bickering does get old!

Sick and tired of all your bickering, and so

Thursday, March 25th, 2010

I got sick and tired of all your bickering so I went back to work. The BH is up in Colorado now.

He pulled a gun and then stepped inside this little shed.  – Flyss

[story continued in this post]

It seems like you’re giving yourself way too much leeway

Wednesday, March 24th, 2010

I don’t know … it seems to me that you’re giving yourself enough wiggle room to arrive at almost any interpretation.  – Stephen

One needs the background to interpret it

Wednesday, March 24th, 2010

We’re looking at the same material, true, but I’m more tuned in about what to look for. For example, it’s immediately obvious to me that “AJ & AL = CBs” means “Because Andrew Johnson instead of Abraham Lincoln conducted Reconstruction the result was carpetbaggers (eg., bitter friction.) Here, the “&” symbol doesn’t mean “and” as it usually does, but rather is meant to look like a knot, which is a pun for “not.”

Similarly, the little video clip below of an opening eye against large mountains is clearly meant to be read as “Great Awakening.”  It was by putting together such veiled communications that I assembled the various details of my interpretive post. — Glenn

Where did you get all that?

Wednesday, March 24th, 2010

Where did you get all that? I’m looking at the same material as you are, and I just don’t see it. — Stephen

Still, one can get a gist

Tuesday, March 23rd, 2010

Despite the difficulties, one can get a gist. Here’s a few choice details I’ve managed to extract from the material so far.

By the 1820s, the Immortal Illuminati had decided establish American world hegemony.  Europe had become too dangerous for them. , with its incessant wars, and also the tightening noose of its post-Napoleonic security structure.  They saw America as a safe haven. In one ringing phrase, it’s described as, “a whole country playing the role of Acropolis.”

But the way they set about achieving this was truly Machiavellian. For example, it appears that they were of two minds about Lincoln’s assassination, but ultimately allowed it to happen because (a) they calculated that without Lincoln, Reconstruction would fail; (b) given a failed Reconstruction, America wouldn’t achieve industrial dominance the early 20th century; (c) by then, Japan would have humiliated Russia in an Asian war; (d) this, together with other steps, would set in motion the Bolshevik Revolution; in turn, this would would (e) lead to a great power rivalry that would (f) marginalize Western Europe, as originally desired.

Though all of this did come to pass, the Immortal Illuminati did not always make the right decisions along the way. For example, in order to manage world events, they identified pressure points of the evolving world system and spent enormous effort controlling them. Some of these were obviously correct (media, banking, communications), but others in hindsight make no sense at all. For example, they spent decades bringing South Africa under their heel in the mistaken belief that it would be a choke point for European/Asian trade.

Another problem they encountered involved managing the great secular jihads of the 20th century that they themselves set in motion — Communism and Nazism.  They repeatedly found events spinning out of their control.

Other interesting points revealed in this material show that some of the goals of the actual Illuminati run counter to conventional conspiracy theory analysis. For example, we now know that they nurtured the rise of Evangelical Christianity in the United States rather than resisted it.  Why? Because they correctly foresaw it as a force for the social cohesion and militarism they wished to inculcate in American society. — Glenn

Explanation for the delay

Tuesday, March 23rd, 2010

Sorry, Flyss!  The explanation for our delay is that the hidden messages are jumbled beyond what could possibly be necessary for cryptographic purposes. I rather believe Kate is right, and this is the work of the person we call Laughing One.

One section is written in Navajo transliterated into Sanskrit. Another consists of Romanian language sentences in Romanian script, but reassorted in such a manner as to prefix in a bunch the odd-ranked words of each sentence prior to the even-ranked words of the same sentence. EG., according to this transformation rule, “The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog” becomes “The brown jumped the dog quick fox over lazy.”)

In other places, anagrams are substituted for words, words or sentences are written backwards, or the sentences of a section are placed in alphabetical rather than narrative order. It’s thoroughly unreasonable!

But we’re working on it.  – Stephen

Bicker, bicker, bicker

Tuesday, March 23rd, 2010

Bicker, bicker, bicker. Hey boys, what about all those luscious messages you’re meant to be decoding? — Flyss

Perhaps they wanted to lose the Colonies?

Monday, March 22nd, 2010

Perhaps they wanted to lose the Colonies. (That was a joke.)

I still think immense time and wealth would make up for limitations in talent.– Glenn

Not necessarily

Monday, March 22nd, 2010

I’m not convinced it would work that way.  You mention the capacity to manipulate possessed by other great leaders/politicians of history.  But such great manipulators are selected by Darwinian forces out of vast populations. Maybe only one person in a million is a Franklin Delano Roosevelt; only one in a hundred million is a Napoleon.

On the other hand, there are likely only a handful of people who don’t age. The laws of statistics suggest that they are otherwise mediocre people.  This has always been a problem faced by ruling elites. One simply can’t count on a brilliant monarch having brilliant offspring. For every Queen Elizabeth there’s a King George, dull-witted, unimaginative, incompetent, ultimately fatal to the needs of his own class. Even with all his inherited advantages of wealth, education, connections and prestige, he was unable to control the upstarts overseas. —  Stephen

With unlimited wealth and time

Monday, March 22nd, 2010

Why do I think they must have intended it? Because, with unlimited wealth and time, it seems only likely that influence would grow exponentially. Bear with me on this while I explain what I have in mind.

On the obvious level, there would be time and resources to increase one’s penetration and control of all instruments of social power. Imagine the very same Immortal exercising powers of persuasion on not on the parents, but the children and grandchildren in all important political and aristocratic families.

Beyond that, the steadily growing understanding of human nature would allow such Immortal Illuminati to manipulate circumstances in such a way that entire classes of people would possess shared self-interested motivations, and thus could be counted upon to seek the desired goals without any external manipulation.

After all, this is how ordinary politicians work.  To give an example from the Democratic party, when health care reform creates a class of people beholden to the government for health care, those people can be reliably counted on to maintain the power of the government so as to maintain their health care coverage. Or, when Republican administrations foster an ideology that is conducive to increased military spending, future military contractors, military families and the military establishment itself will naturally vote Republican.

And that’s looking only one move ahead.  A truly sophisticated manipulator of populaces might bait group A to take a position against group B so as to split Group A from Group B; an even more sophisticated one might give power to Group A while subtly leading it to overreach itself, in order to create a subsequent backlash.  History tells us of great political leaders who have done all this and more.  Think of the even greater capacities of a person who has lived a thousand years — Glenn

Why not the reverse?

Sunday, March 21st, 2010

Why assume that health care reform serves their ends? Maybe they fought against it, and lost.

Even granting they’re powerful, it doesn’t follow that they’re all-powerful. –Stephen

Health Care Reform

Sunday, March 21st, 2010

Health care reform just passed.  The conspiracy theory world sees this as a stage on the way to the New World Order.  Does our new understanding that the Illuminati are Immortals help us understand this event better? How does health care reform serve their ends?  – Glenn

What we know so far

Saturday, March 20th, 2010

For those who are new to this site, an ongoing summary of what we know so far can be found here. — Stephen

Layers of truth

Friday, March 19th, 2010

A liars paradox, as rendered for us by a joker. Mirrors and circus mirrors.

How better to know the truth?  – Kate

Truth told by liars

Friday, March 19th, 2010

In the true history of the Illuminati we learn that they are amazing dissemblers. So isn’t the whole content a liars paradox, a house of mirrors? — Stephen

The True History of the Illuminati

Friday, March 19th, 2010

This material is a treasure trove.  I’ve only dipped into a few percent of what’s here, and already every idea I’ve had about conspiracies has been turned upside down.

The bottom line: What we theorists suspected has proved entirely true – and entirely false.

Where past conspiracy theorists imagined a cabal of Jewish bankers, there is instead something far more dangerous: a cabal of Immortals who have amassed incredible fortunes over their long lives (and who do not mind shifting suspicion onto Jews and others when it serves them.)  Where Elizabeth Clare Prophet and many others wrote of spiritually advanced beings living in tunnels honeycombing the earth, there is instead a hidden world of Immortals hiding underground: but they are not necessarily spiritually advanced at all.

These Illuminati — for that is actually what they call themselves– are immensely but far from absolutely powerful.  They have no special abilities other than the profound understanding of human psychology long life has given them. They have no mind control rays, but they are highly skilled at controlling us without them.

Here is a vital point: Among their many methods, they support false or partly false conspiracy theories to distract us from the real.  It is they who have kidnapped people and released them with the stigmata of alien abduction.  It is they who have terrorized people with black helicopters, a kind of theatre to distract us from their actual acts of manipulation. They planted the Majestic 12 papers and wrote the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

The Illuminati have infiltrated the CIA, the NSA, FEMA, the Trilateral Commission, the mainstream media and every other organ of social power, and they use these powers both to accomplish their goals and to sow misinformation about their goals.  And they’re ruthless: They’ve not hesitated to cause certain people or groups of people to be blamed and victimized, even slaughtered when it serves their purposes. And yet, they mean us well.

This is the true history of the Illuminati.  I will be presenting it in the weeks and months ahead. – Glenn

One would suppose they are meant to be counted

Thursday, March 18th, 2010

No brilliance here, but one would suppose by the admonition that they are meant to be counted.  Notice the 8 somewhat bright bars in the bottom row, the two slightly brighter in the middle next to two that are much brighter, and and the very bright horizontal pattern across the entire top.  That makes a total of 13 — the number of the Illuminati.  Of these, one is far above the others, two are leaders, and the rest follow. There are also a number of subsidiary members.

Oh, and “I am ill unit” is an anagram of “Illuminati.” — Glenn

Photos in sound files

Thursday, March 18th, 2010

He’s managed to insert photos as well as text in the sound files, via the stereo effect I mentioned earlier. Very sophisticated. I’m impressed.

I’ve inserted one of the extracted photos below.  It’s prefixed by the admonition, “Count them,” and followed by the weird phrase, “I am ill unit.”

What does that mean? — Stephen

Encoded in the stereo

Thursday, March 18th, 2010

There’s a very sophisticated encoding process used in those files, one that appears in the difference between the two mp3s: in the stereo, so to speak. The encrypted material consists, it appears, of masses of text, though in several languages.  Those sections I’ve given even cursory examination to so far contain amazing and highly disturbing information, and I’m not sure if I should post all or even any of it here. Let’s discuss privately. — Stephen

Like this folded piece of paper?

Thursday, March 18th, 2010

You wrote, “P.S. Also, I suspect there are physical messages in the devices you found. Would you send them to me?”

Yeah, sure. But first I’m going to open this folded piece of paper that says, “READ ME FIRST.” — Flyss

Curious? It says, “Go really, really far away. When you’re safely curled up in bed with your fluffy socks on, go on a scavenger hunt for my messages.  Almost half of what you’ll read is true.  The rest is total BS, but heck, that’s better than the New York Times.”

It’s loaded with messages

Thursday, March 18th, 2010

Those mp3 files are loaded with messages in the hex code. Completely in the clear, there are the words, “Ox Adrenals says: I may joke, but these people do not.  They will capture you if you do not flee. I do not mean the man you’ve followed, but the ones who live beneath the ground at the place you’ve followed him to. Go! Go to a safe place, and read the messages I have given you. Stay away, and read to your heart’s content.”

Then there are scattered anagrams, such as “Till in Maui,” and “Circa our sin.” (Respectively, “Illuminati” and “Rosicrucian.”)  Also, the sentences,”These are real.  Fear these,” endlessly repeated, together with “Safer Thee,” an anagram of “Fear these.”

And those are just the messages in the clear.  There are obviously encrypted parts that I haven’t decrypted yet. Back to you as soon as I know more. — Glenn

P.S. Also, I suspect there are physical messages in the devices you found. Would you send them to me?

Do you recognize the signature?

Thursday, March 18th, 2010

He follows you in the night,

and though he comes close enough to touch you,

He does not touch you.

He does not harm.

He sets up iPods to mimic helicopters!

He jokes about what is not a joke.

Black helicopters.

Do you recognize the signature?

You were visited by the Laughing One. — Kate

Black Helicopters

Wednesday, March 17th, 2010

So I’m at the dish, and I get out of my car to check out the Black Helicopters I hear coming for me.

Black helicopters are pretty much made on purpose to be hard to see at night, and it’s foggy with no moon.  But I think I see shapes coming up from close to the ground, swirling a little, going to the left sometimes and sometimes to the right but always getting closer.

And closer.  And still closer.

OK, already.  Turn on your bright lights. Land and kidnap me, or shine down your mind rays so I pass out and wake up on the Mothership … But nothing.

Maybe I’ve been kidnapped and my organs operated on for fun, and I can’t remember it. Except I still hear the helicopters and they’re not getting closer. So decide to walk ahead and make it easier for them.

I walk about twenty feet and the helicopter wind blows dust in my eyes. I keep walking.  Now  the helicopters are on both sides of me. And now they’re behind me, and the wind’s still making my eyes itch. Which isn’t right. And the sound is awfully low to the ground, so low I can stomp on it.

Literally. Because the sound is coming from a boombox.

From two ipod boom boxes, about twenty feet apart, playing helicopter sounds in stereo.

OK, that’s more than cool.

Glenn, I’ll email you the mp3 files. Instead of falling all over yourself to apologize for not showing up, just analyze the damn things. And, yes, I’m getting the heck out of here. Even if they’re only flying boom boxes at me instead of real black helicopters, I get the message. — Flyss

P.S. I’m emailing them to Stephen, too.

In the dark

Wednesday, March 17th, 2010

So I’ve given up on Glenn coming here and just taking more pictures of that giant dish with the armed guards.  It’s always totally silent on the hilltop where I park here except for my repetitious heartbeat, and also an owl. Only just now it’s stopped being so quiet.

I’m getting out to take pictures of them coming for me. — Flyss

Waiting for Glenn

Wednesday, March 17th, 2010

Still waiting for Glenn.  (He missed his first flight.)

The problem for him is that he’s studied too much conspiracy stuff.  He’s an encyclopedia on it.  He can talk all night about the evidence that someone is controlling things. He doesn’t believe it’s the usual suspects (Jews, Satan’s minions, UFOs.) He also doesn’t think these Illuminati (for lack of a better word) control everything — just some things.  But he has plenty of proof  showing that they control a lot of things. And that  they’re vicious.

Since he’s been writing about this stuff for years, it’s pretty sensible for him to worry that they might have it in for him.  If he doesn’t show up,  I won’t get my feelings hurt. — Flyss

P.S. Only, he shouldn’t say he’s coming when he’s not.

But it’s not on Google Earth

Tuesday, March 16th, 2010

First, I never said anything about Immortals living here.  That must have been on your own brain.  All I know is that (a) The BH, who is known to be chasing an Immortal, visited the dish the day after he visited a chemical factory that by coincidence had just been featured online with a secret message from Antipollus hidden inside. (b) This is the same Antipollus who has something to do with the non-mortal person Glenn saw at Antietam way back when. (c) It’s a weird place, and so’s the factory. (c) What are they doing way out in the middle of nowhere, and with armed guards? (I forgot to mention, the dish has guards too.)

Second, the dish isn’t on Google Earth.  If you plug in its GPS location, you see a whole lot of dirt and bushes.

Third, the neighbors don’t know about it either, because there aren’t any neighbors.  It’s really out in deepest nowhere, and the roads to get here aren’t marked.  (I had a map courtesy of the GPS tracker I stuck in the BH’s car.)

I’m not so much thinking Immortal hideouts as secret government installations. But why is someone chasing an Immortal taking side trips to visit secret government installations? — Flyss

It couldn’t be a secret

Tuesday, March 16th, 2010

Whatever that dish is, it can’t be a secret.  Not in these days of Google Earth.

I can easily imagine immortal people creating secret places to hide.  It would only make sense for them to do so.  Otherwise, they’d have to change identities every fifteen years or so, and, as Glenn points out, that must have become progressively more difficult in recent times. I can even imagine that they live in subterranean tunnels, providing (perhaps) a rational origin for cult theories about underground Illuminati. And, certainly, hiding in a less-traveled area like rural Oklahoma would only make sense. But they wouldn’t signal their secret locations by placing giant domes on top. — Stephen

You’re coming?

Monday, March 15th, 2010

You’re coming?  Now I’m really scared. But, thanks. Private chat with the details. — Flyss

I’m coming.

Monday, March 15th, 2010

(On the next plane.) — Glenn

What the heck is this?

Monday, March 15th, 2010

Glenn: What’s something like this doing out in the middle of nowhere in Oklahoma? What the heck am I even looking at? This isn’t just Protocols of the Elders of the Kennedy Clan, it’s UFO-level, mind-control-radiation X-files shit stuff.

The BH just traveled three hundred miles to park for an hour here and do God only knows what. (I’m putting the detective work details on God because, yes, I was good and waited till hours after the BH left before I parked here too.)

I’ve played Helicopter Sims so I know all about flying ‘copters. Tomorrow, I’ll take your credit card to Hertz rent-a-helicopter and hire a black one, so I can flop onto their roof and demand to see their Mothership.

I wish you left your house occasionally, Glenneus Maximus, so you could come out here and tell me what the frack this fracking place is. –Flyss

P.S. Yes, I’m creeped out.

Putting just a few words in my mouth :-)

Sunday, March 14th, 2010

Glenn: You’re putting just a few words in my mouth :-)

But it’s my fault for talking in riddles. (I like talking in riddles.)

I wouldn’t say hateful people like Mankow are onto something.  It’s the intelligent conspiracy theorists I had in mind.

Like you.  – Kate

More subtly

Sunday, March 14th, 2010

Flyss: Partly she was talking to Stephen about why something as apparently unimportant (to him) as my anagram discovery should shake his skepticism.

But, as you say, I think she did mean that even the more horrific conspiracy theorists like Henry Makow (of Cruel Hoax: Feminism and the New World Order fame) may be onto something.  Not in the details. To sell books, they provoke every strand of Know-Nothing, lowest-common-denominator fear, hatred, racism, mindless conservativism, debased Christianity, etc. that serves the purpose.  And not in their logic either: That type of book is a feat of nonstop rhetorical fallacy.

But, still, behind all the vicious ignorance, there’s seems to be something. It’s not Jews, Feminists, the Federal Reserve or the specific people (like Winston Churchill!) they identify as Illuminati.  Instead, as seems to be growing evident to all of us, that something could be a society of Immortals.

I can imagine there are young (new) Immortals who just live it up, like The Aussie. But I can also imagine others who are far older and much more dangerous.  They would certainly have the motive to control the world.  And they could very well have accumulated the ability.

I would think the man I saw at Antietam could be one of those. Not only him, but the woman too. The reference to “blue&black” in the message, and her costume,  are awfully reminiscent of a secret society.  What if they are the true Illuminati? — Glenn

So what you’re saying is

Sunday, March 14th, 2010

So what you’re saying is that maybe the insane conspiracy theorists who bilge on and on about how the satanic Jewish Illuminati are trying to establish a totalitarian world state by sacrificing humans at the Bohemian Grove, duping the world with feminism and electing the fascist/ubercapitalist/communist non-American Obama may be onto something?

Diamonds sludged in the vomit? Truth cysts in the open sewer? — Flyss