Returning to the subject

By Stephen. June 13th, 2010

While we’re still waiting to carry out  the photograph check of  Oxadrenal’s claim that he is a Hafeem, I would like to note that I, personally, consider the stories of underground tunnels at DIA as recently discussed  by Glenn not to be credible. Furthermore, such discussion seems to me to be a distraction from our main project here, that of investigating Immortals.

To return to that subject, I’d like to continue a thread that’s been much discussed on these pages recently, that of how to verify that someone who claims to be an immortal is in fact one. As Oxadrenals pointed out in the thread beginning here, much of the life of a genuine immortal consists of hiding the very fact of his existence. This makes verification of his immortality necessarily difficult. (Additional difficulties are also described in the referenced thread.)

We’re currently in the process of verifying his age in a two step manner. First, we viewed a very clear photograph that that has been ensconced in a small museum since 1911. Second, Flyss will photograph him at a certain location in Manhattan, the details of which will be told to her at the last moment, no doubt so that Oxadrenals can ensure he can escape the moment after his image is captured.  (She is in the city now, waiting for final instructions.) If, as he claims, the photographs show the same person without significant aging, that surely will be strong evidence he is one of that group of people we are investigating.

In a private email, one of our readers, “C,” has pointed out other possible methods.  For example, surely a person who has lived centuries would know several languages, all characteristic of the period in which he lived. If he claims to have lived in England in the 17th century, for example, he could provide a sample of speech as he recalls it from that time, and surely an expert linguist could determine whether this is genuine.

The problem here, however, is that (as Oxadrenals himself claims), linguistic memory may fail as time passes, and language use changes. Simply put, he may not remember how he used to speak.

One way to get around this would be if the person had, say, lived in a country at some time in the past, and never returned. Then, his memory of that period would be frozen, as it were. Oxadrenals, however, claims to have kept up on current versions of the three languages he speaks (English, Russian and French) and has forgotten how they were spoken in past centuries. This, we believe, is credible.

A related approach would be to test him on details from the times in which he lived, and verify his recall by consultation with an appropriate historian. However, this approach has the practical difficulty of requiring that we find an appropriate historian. Oxadrenal’s memories of the past do not include much on the political events of the time. It seems that the clothing, dress, makeup, behavior and personalities of a series of women captured his near entire attention for much of his early life. We have verified some of those details, but the information he presented is accessible online, and so this proves nothing.

He claims that beginning in the late 19th century his interests broadened, but he is reluctant to give the details of where he lived or what he did, because that period is too close to our current one, and might provide a chain of evidence leading to discovery of his current activities, and this he does not wish to facilitate. All of this may be true, but it may be a convenient excuse. One  cannot determine which without additional information.

But if he does in fact allow his photograph to be taken, all of this will be moot. – Stephen

1 Comment

  1. c says:

    “The problem here, however, is that (as Oxadrenals himself claims), linguistic memory may fail as time passes, and language use changes. Simply put, he may not remember how he used to speak.”

    This is most definitely true. If a particular language is not spoken frequently and another language takes place in our brain that currently becomes our mother tongue.

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