Do I have an example? Let’s see. Which one out of about a thousand?
How about this: In this post, you decide that the Immortals have migrated to Santa Clara. Based on what? Because the Hafeem “W” sensed their presence?
I happen to agree with the conclusion. But to pretend that you”re being all strictly rational while Strattera is just making stuff up, well, you’re full of bullshit. – Flyss
You accuse me of leaping to unjustified conclusions when it suits me. When you make a claim like that, you should give an example. Can you come up with one? — Stephen
You’re awfully selective in your skepticism, Stephen. When you get an idea, you leap to conclusions without a blink. But when someone else does it — and does it in an area where you’re ignorant, like esoteric symbols — you laugh down your nose at them. You did it to Glenn continuously. You put him down over and over, even though he figured out all kinds of things you couldn’t. And now you’re doing it to Strattera.
Lay off. – Flyss
As frequent readers of this site know, I am by nature highly skeptical. This has advantages and disadvantages; some, in fact, seem to regard it as almost a type of inborn psychological disorder.
Be that as it may, I cannot help viewing a number of recent posts with a skeptical eye.
I have no objection to JD’s analysis, for here we are analyzing the symbolic resonances of a symbol that a group has chosen for its emblem. This is a matter of poetic understanding, not deduction. But the attempt at a deductive train beginning here seems to me much too loose.
The decorative gate that begins the thread is a common enough style. I once owned a very similar one myself. That it should be taken to indicate a tunnel is far fetched, as even Flyss admits.. And while I do agree that the isolated rock it leads is charming, the carving found on it looks to me like no more than graffiti. Even if it does contain a snake, that snake looks little like the ouroboros. Furthermore, In JD’s analysis, the ouroboros was only a symbolic resonance of the Illuminati symbol. However, it is an explicit component of many other symbols. What justification is there for deciding it references the emblem of the Blue&black?
No disrespect meant, but I think we have gone too far out on a limb here! — Stephen
Thank you JD, for you detailed and scholarly post!
To summarize what he has to say by the route of Kanji, he links the Immortal blue&black symbol to the ouroboros, the Alchemical symbol of immortality.
The connection between this and the symbol we found carved into the rock on the beach is visually obvious.
As our reader Observer points out, the curving shape beneath the eye resembles a snake; in fact, the eye itself may double as the head of the snake.
But one has to admit that this is rather crude compared to the refinement of the Illuminati symbol. And why is it carved on is it carved on a rock linked to a house owned by one of the “ghost children” of The Aussie?
Here’s my hypothesis: (a) The Aussie is not a member of the immortal Illuminati, but he would like to get in touch with them. (b) At the same time, he is afraid to put out too public an appeal, for fear that he will attract attention from others with whom he does not want to get in contact (such as the US government, or individual mortals hungry for what they presume to be his secret means of remaining young.) (c) Then too, he recognizes that the Illuminati themselves must exercise caution about whom they contact. (d) Therefore, he must resort to delicate chains of connection, putting out feelers that can be built on with care.
Exactly how he could go about walking so fine a line, though, I can only dimly imagine.
- Strattera
Thank you for inviting me onto your site. I hope what I write here is helpful.
I was reflecting on the Illuminati blue&black symbol, pictured here:
The more I thought about it, the more I was reminded of certain characters in Kanji. (Kanji is one of the three types of Japanese writing.) Certain Kanji characters that look like the symbol also have meanings that relate to it.
For example, the Kanji pictured below means circle or ring:
It is different from the Illuminati symbol only in that the latter has a circle in the center, as this schematic drawing shows:
Perhaps the added circle is intended to emphasize the meaning that the kanji already has.
This second Kanji also resembles an additional horizontal line near the top. It’s meaning is circumference.
It is therefore a little remarkable that the Illuminati symbol also resembles pi, the constant used to compute the circumference of a circle!
This next Kanji is similar to the others, but lacks the middle vertical line. It means same/similar or together.
My final example has an additional horizontal line at the bottom. It means solid, solidify or strength.
So, taken all together, these Kanji seem to bring together the concept of a circle and a sense of solidarity and strength.
And what is a circle? Consider the ouroboros, a symbol used by the alchemists.
Alchemists are remembered today for wanting to turn lead into gold. But in reality their true goal was to achieve Immortality by means of the elixir of life or the philosopher’s stone. And the ouroboros represents the destruction of death by perpetual self sustenance and regeneration.
In other words, the Illuminati symbol carries the meaning of “a strong union of those devoted to immortality.” What better emblem could there be for a powerful secret society of Immortals? — JD
As I mentioned in my last post, it seems useful now to spend some time analyzing symbols. This is not my field of expertise; it was Glenn’s. Now, we have no experts on the subject, and my ignorance is worth listening to as much as anyone else’s, I suppose. We welcome outside input!
This thread begins a comprehensive analysis of what we have called the “Illuminati Symbol,” used as an emblem and a calling card by a major group of True Immortals known as the blue&blacks. Here is one version of what it looks like:
Glenn give his analysis of it here. This is an excerpt:
The central disk is metal, while the frame or container is of rough-hewn wood. The Masons use a similar emblem. Notice also the faint cross visible on the back of the disk, reminiscent of standard Rosicrucian symbology. Finally, the wood “frame” is asymmetrical, the left leg thicker than the right, and with its notch set lower down. This suggests two suborders within the whole. Thus, the blue and the black portions of the design may represent the classic Egyptian unequal partners of Night and Water.
However, later, based on comments by several readers, we began to also consider Japanese connections to the symbol. In particular, we had studied connections to the Shinto Torii motif,
as well as to the classic Japanese Hanging Gong:
I would invite you to read this important post for details on those two comparisons.
However, last week another reader, “JD,” took this analysis to an entirely new level. His brilliant and scholarly analysis has now provided us an entirely new level of insight into the meanings of the symbol. What he has to say is so detailed and impressive that we have asked him to write a full guest post in which to lay out his ideas. Thank you, JD. — Strattera
Continuing where Flyss left off.
Here’s my attempt at an analysis.
As we’ve noted in various posts, there has recently been a consolidation of True Immortal force in Santa Clara County, California. Some of these Trueimms have decamped from complex installations in the Midwest (including the tunnels shown in that link and these previously off-the-map “factories”) while others merely abandoned nearby garrisons in San Francisco, at the Veteran’s War Memorial.* The two known leaders of these True Immortals are the individuals we are calling Antipollus and Sollaya.
The county of Santa Cruz abuts Santa Clara County in deep redwood forest along the ridge of the Santa Cruz mountains. This area appears to be more closely associated with a group of Hafeems allied with Oxadrenals.
The two groups appear to be in conflict. The True Immortals are more powerful, but another individual, yet more powerful still, is enforcing an armed peace. This is Yahahnna, called The Eldest.
A particular True Immortal,** “The Aussie,” owns property in Santa Cruz, via one of his ghost children. He does not seem to be allied with others of his kind. His property, however, links to an isolated rock on an isolated beach, and that rock contains a peculiar variation of the famous Illuminati eye and triangle.
Oxadrenals has told us the he hopes to soon find the current location of The Aussie. He also speaks of an event he calls The Big Show, due to occur in the fall of 2010 or the winter of 2011. This event is expected somehow to further the cause of physical immortality for Hafeems and mortals, and is also linked to the enmity between the groups.
The details, however, are obscured by the fog of future events. I believe that in order to unravel them, it may help begin analyzing some symbols. (Continued in my next post) — Straterra
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* They may still have a certain brooding presence in San Francisco.
**He could be a Hafeem. But Oxadrenals informs us that he is aging too slowly for that.
To recap the last several posts:
Santa Cruz, California is a hotbed of “ghost children,” false identities raised up over decades.
Among these are several ghost children linked to the Aussie.
One of these homes has a decorative gate that curiously resembles a tunnel cut into the cliffside on the beach below the home.
The tunnel cuts through the cliff to an isolated beach with a large chalky rock standing alone in the sand.
Carved into the face of the rock there is what appears to be an Illuminati symbol, similar but not identical to another symbol shown in a photo we found in a cathedral in San Francisco. That symbol too was carved into a chalky rock surface.
What do we make of all this? Oxadrenals is adamantly not talking, but I think we can make a few guesses. (Continued by Strattera in the next post.) — Flyss
In my last post, I described going through the tunnel and coming out onto an isolated beach, where we found a fairly huge rock sitting all alone. Like I mentioned, this rock also has scribbled symbols and writing on it. Here’s a closeup of the most interesting part:
(As always, click on the image to enlarge. FYI, I’ve enhanced it a little to make the writing and symbols clearer.)
Again we see a triangle shape with an eye, traditionally connected with the Illuminati, along with a wormy shape I don’t recognize. If Glenn were still alive, I’m sure he’d know right away what it is. But I’m drawing a blank.
Any suggestions? (Continued in my next post) — Flyss
In my last post, I showed the entrance to a tunnel on the beach below the house owned by one of the Aussie’s ghost children.
The house sits up on the cliff that’s ubiquitous along the beach in Santa Cruz. The tunnel at first appears to be some kind of run-of-the-mill culvert handling runoff from the street. But actually, it’s a kind of U-shaped culvert, with two outlets to the ocean dividing a single stream of runoff.
We followed it around for a while,
and then saw light again:
(Like Kate says, in and out of the dark, but a lot more in the light than than we used to be.)
The tunnel leads out onto an isolated beach caught between two arms of the cliff. Here’s a view to the right:
And here’s the view off to the left:
In between, there’s a large, solitary rock just sitting there, like it fell straight out of the sky:
It’s made of the same chalky material seen the photo we found in the cathedral tower.
And, just like in that photo, there are all kinds of symbols and messages carved onto its face. (Continued in my next post) — Flyss
The photos on this site, once all taken in the night
Grow brighter now.
Though there are still night- and fog-shrouded scenes here
Flyss has now shown us a house lit by the actual sun!
The night is beautiful, but it is easier to see in the day.
And though it is a risk to be seen, we
together, mortals and immortals alike,
are taking that risk,
small steps out of hiding. –Kate
As I mentioned in my last post, it’s hard not to see hidden symbols and messages here. Like for instance, consider this house owned by one of the Aussie’s ghost children.
This is nothing more than a decorative circle, a visual reference to the path leading up to the house. People often buy fancy gates like this. Most likely, the shape has nothing whatsoever to do with this other decorative circle found on the beach directly below the house.
I’m obviously seeing connections where there are none. But just for the heck of it, let’s go a little ways down that tunnel. (Continued in my next post) — Flyss
We’re in Santa Cruz now,* trolling the beach near a property owned by one of the Aussie’s ghost children. As you can see, the cliff here is very much like the chalky background shown in Strattera’s last post.
One small difference is that the symbols shown above are somewhat less evocative than the Illuminati Eye image found in the cathedral.
However, one does begin to wonder whether some of the phone numbers scribbled here and there were left by True Immortals or Hafeems trying to communicate. Sherlock Holmes read the “agony columns” to look for communication between spies and foreign countries regarding stolen Naval Treaties and the like, and this could be much the same: A way to send a message without having to point it in any particular (and potentially incriminating) direction. Of course, now, the Internet serves the same function — and that’s why Glenn set up his hiddenimmortals.info website. But many Immortals are probably uncomfortable with the Internet, and carving numbers onto trees, rocks or cliffs might be more their speed.
Given that California seems to have been home to a group of Immortals at least since the UN Charter was signed in 1945, and that Santa Clara (just over the mountains from here) seems to be where some number of Immortals from the Midwest as well as from San Francisco have now migrated to, it’s hard not to imagine that this part of the world is particularly dense with hidden messages, laden symbols and coded directions, such as those I shall show in my next post. — Flyss
*Those you of your familiar with our ways on this site will have already guessed that “now” doesn’t really mean now.
That vision of a True Immortal (I imagine Sollaya) lurking in a fog-condomn-ed tower and staring at the city as through a cataract darkly rings true. That’s them alright.
Not that they’re evil. I don’t want to give that impression. They’re totally dedicated to doing good. Only, they think they know what’s good for us. That’s the scary part — Ox
P.S. That diamond/eye symbol carved into the chalk? It’s theirs, yeah. But it’s scrawled right over one put up by a friend of mine. Like a dog marking where another dog marked, the joiks.
(Continued from Flyss’ last post.)
On our recent visit to San Francisco, we had been interviewing homeless people about the Veteran’s War Memorial. During these conversations, however, we heard little about the memorial but a great deal about a flickering tower seen while our interviewees had been sleeping in Golden Gate Park. (That tower is pictured in this post.) Many were of the opinion that the rolling fog didn’t merely hide lights in the tower; rather, that the arrival of the fog was used as an occasion for turning off the lights in the tower.
This repeated story caught our attention. To my mind, this suggested a sniper hiding in a darkened tower, but Kate (with whom we consulted) provided us an opposite image: that of someone standing in a darkened, fog-shrouded tower, invisible to the outside world and therefore entirely safe from snipers.
San Francisco could only be glimpsed dimly from such a surveillance spot. However, this would be of secondary importance to a person for whom personal safety is prioritized above all else: A True Immortal.
Having time to kill while carrying out the pretense of photographing that abandoned building, we conducted a break-in of the flickering tower. It was something of a technical challenge, but I shall spare you the details except to mention that we did so during the day on a Sunday,when the crowds were too thick for an Immortal.
The tower room was empty, swept clean. Its walls, too, were almost entirely bare, except for a crucifix on one wall and on another the photo shown below:
Leaving aside the meaning of the symbol, the medium it’s carved in is easily recognizable as a chalky cliff face, and the pattern of weathering suggests the presence of wind and sand: eg., the ocean.
The cliff material at the ocean in San Francisco is of an entirely different consistency, as per direct examination. There might be similar cliffs by the ocean north of San Francisco,but we haven’t taken time to explore in that direction; as it happens, there is a cliff of exactly this type extending more than 30 miles north and south of Santa Cruz.
This, of course, proves nothing. But it gives us a focus as we explore Santa Cruz, California. — Strattera
Based on Stephen’s “ghost children farm” discoveries, we’re exploring around Santa Cruz. As I mentioned in my last post, the deep redwoods around there look able to swallow a whole metro area of immortals.
Our esteemed reader and guest commentator “Humanspybot” suggests we explore Holy City, the site of an early 20th century utopian, pro-Nazi, white supremacist commune/cult. And it certainly is an interesting site. Its location sits at perhaps the most deeply wooded extreme of Santa Clara county.
However, Oxadrenals keeps nagging at us to stay out of Santa Clara and stick to Santa Cruz, and since he’s funding our training we will obey (for now.)
Santa Cruz is a big place, though, and the question is, where to start? Yes, the houses owned by the “ghost children” are obvious, and we’ll be going there soon. But just now we’re following another lead.
We found it in a room in the third tower from the left in this cathedral:
(As usual, click on the image to enlarge.)
The night that we were watching the cathedral, fog rolled in and out repeatedly. It was quite striking how entirely that one tower could disappear (and, yes, I mean the one just to the left of the second tall tower, not the little tower shown below but out of the frame above.)
It was this photogenic phenomenon that inspired us to investigate more closely. (Continued by Strattera in the next post) — Flyss
Stephen asked me to write a brief post explaining why my guys don’t get along with their guys (nor my gals with their gals, etc.), as it’s a subject in the background recently.
Basically, high minded as we try to be, Hafeems and True Immortals bump each other on the chins. Not one-on-one. It’s happened a lot that a young True Immortal gets mentored by a Hafeem. But once True Immortals get pretty old they usually find us irritating pretenders; and we don’t like them much either because they never get wrinkles or nose hairs.
Not to be so flip, I’m in favor of physical immortality for all, they’re not and hence the problem. I’m doing some things to to get there the SENS foundation never dreamed of, and the upshot is that I’m racing toward a head on collision with the Trueimms (God, they’d hate to be -called that, but a reader suggested it and I approve) when they step athwart my plans. This fall or winter at the latest the showdown starts.
Now, about a delicate subject: The Eldest, (blessed She) has not taken sides. To use her own words, she chooses to “hold the powers equal and let chance decide.” The one power is my group, the other power is Antipollus and his True Immortal Illuminati (with Sollaya and the Blue&blacks and bunches of others.) Truth be told, Antipollus is a hell of a lot stronger than me. (Smarter too, richer, wiser, cleverer, more perceptive … but I’m twice as handsome.) If he stepped in with all his might I’d be boot polish.
But the Eldest (blessed She) is stronger than either of us, and she’s holding us apart. In the mean time, we’re getting closer and close, and the pressure is building, and if she decides to stop maintaining the peace we will snap-to at war, with the hounds of hell baying and sniffing each other’s butts, and the cats of hell massing into vast cat herds, and also lots of shouting. And killing, and guns and nasty comments so hurtful they can never be taken back. Or worse. — Oxadrenals
Now, having wrapped all that up, I think it’s time to check in on that ghost children farm in Santa Cruz Stephen found. As you may recall, I wanted to re-check out San Francisco first, to “tie up some loose ends.” Well, we sure did that. Now it’s Santa Cruz’s turn
Strattera, Peter the great (our instructor) and I are out there now.
A little geography: Santa Clara County (also known as Silicon Valley) is on the south end of San Francisco Bay, on the east side of the Santa Cruz Mountains. Actually, the county goes all the way up to the summit of those mountains, but when you come down the west side heading toward the ocean, you’re in Santa Cruz county.
Oxadrenals wants us to stay on the west side of the mountains and away from Santa Clara, since as he suspected and we now know pretty much for sure, a secret society of True Immortals has settled among the silicon. But this is rather interesting if you put it together with what Yahannah said?
“Both friends and not friends live where the trees are cold, and old and soft and high.”
Some place like this?
Santa Cruz county and Santa Clara county both contain large redwood forests. Huge, endless, shading away the sky and hiding thousands of square miles beneath their canopy. Here’s what you see when you stare straight up:
And these are just tiny, young trees. We haven’t gotten to the really big ones. When you’re under those, you don’t see any sky at all. It’s a separate, secret world, pretty much perfect to hide in if you’re a True Immortal. Or, if you’re a Hafeem.
Yahannah spoke of both friends and not friends hiding in the “cold, old, soft high” trees.” Oxadrenal has proven himself to be a friend, but the Immortal Illuminati are at the very least “not friends.” Are they facing off on opposite sides of the Santa Cruz mountains, Oxadrenal’s society of Hafeems, and that other secret society, the Immortal Illuminati, each one hidden beneath the redwood canopies, or beneath the ancient ground beneath the trees?– Flyss
Stephen’s tied up a lot of the hanging loose ends, but I have a few more of my own.
Like Stephen said, Strattera and I grilled the good doctor more gently than he deserved. I’m talking about the MD who enticed Glenn out by promising all sorts of treatments for Glenn’s terminal diabetes: stem cells, mitochondrial regeneration, and who knows what all else. He pretends to have a connection to Aubrey de Grey, but it turns out all he did was go to one evening talk. He’s just your typical holistic harry walking quack.
I originally planned to more or less kill the guy if I found him, but in person he’s such a well-meaning wimp that I couldn’t get myself to muss his makeup. (Not that he wore makeup.) I didn’t even report him to the California Medical Board so they could revoke his license.
I settled for his list of patients.
Funny the sorts of people who visit life extension quacks and buy their bullshit. Famous names. They get supplements and herbs and acupuncture, and everything else. I think we should look into them. I bet more than one is a Hafeem.
But right now we have something else to do: investigate Santa Cruz, California, the city that, according to Stephen, has more ghost children than any other city in the United States. (We’re there already. Photos soon.) – Flyss
I do see what you mean. However, that post is still well within the realm of possibility with Babble-on. There’s a sort of “snappy reply buffer” one can load up to provide particularly human-like responses from time to time for purposes of verisimilitude. One has to anticipate an appropriate circumstance, of course, but perhaps Glenn deliberately chose this forum software to draw a complaint about the challenges of logging in, and had the reply prepared. — Stephen
Hey Stephen, check out “ObservingAll”‘s latest post at hiddenimmortals.info. Would you still say she could be your expert system “Babble-on?” — Flyss
A few more details to explain, and then I’ll end this thread.
I’ve explained how Glenn came into possession of the mirrored room photo. But I haven’t explained why the Hafeem W sent it to him, nor why Glenn left us anagrams referring to Aubrey de Grey.
The explanation is simple (and, unlike Oxadrenals, I’ll also supply it.)
When W came to sense the presence of a group of True Immortals in Santa Clara county, his first impulse, naturally enough, was to flee. However, he had a vested interest in raising funds for life extension and a large network of fundraising connections in Silicon Valley; hence he was disinclined to simply disappear and start a new life elsewhere.
His second impulse was to personally investigate the whereabouts of the society of Immortal Illuminati. His courage took him as far as the mirror room in the Veterans War Memorial, but he balked at breaking through the door. Having become aware of our blog through his SENS foundation connections, he conceived of the notion of getting us to do his work for him. Therefore, he took the photograph of himself (without no confederate other than the camera self-timer) and sent it to Glenn. His intention was to pique the interest of all the blog’s members, not to send Glenn on a dangerous personal quest.
However, unbeknownst to any of us, Glenn had already been considering a trip to San Francisco to consult with a health practitioner involved with life extension. This man (whom Flyss and Strattera later interrogated rather more gently than he deserves) bills himself as a disciple of Aubrey de Grey, but in fact he has only the most cursory of connections to him. As we suspected, the additional incentive of the mirror room photo was enough to send Glenn packing. He himself then created the anagrams “Read by eye rug” and “iced his lips” and left them for Flyss to find in order to give us some information about what he was up to. He did not tell us more directly, we think, because he knew we would have tried to talk him out of it.
Finally, Oxadrenal’s post claiming not to know W was false; he had already brought W in, and was simply helping me carry out my intended subterfuge. — Stephen
Only said it was simple. Not that I could tell you.
Not allowed. Sorry. When you know a certain missing fact — which might never happen, by the way, though it could, especially after the Big Show goes down — all will be made limpet. — Ox
Stephen has now decided that the True Immortals have moved to Santa Clara. Kate reminds us that True Immortals have too much at risk to take chances, and asks why the heck have they moved to an earthquake zone? Old Ass Ox agrees with both of them, writes, “there’s a really, really simple answer to that earthquake thing you mentioned,” and then signs off.
OK, Oxadrenals: what’s the goddamn simple answer? — Flyss
Sweet Kate
You see so Much. What you Say about True Immortals
is, Well:
on the True side of the Tracks.
They’re mostly tunnel rats / which I agree, has got to Suck
big Time for the Lords /of Time. Not that we
Half-Immortal Hafeemish folk
Strut about with broads in Day-
light hours. / Even I have been known to Skulk
A Bit. And keep my snout down. Sometimes. But not
because I Want to Save my own Precious Hide from every risk
Just from Mortals who would Burn me at the steakhouse
and also True Immortals who would fry me in the Deep.
Those time sluts, they’re
Skared for Skaredness Sake,
Concubi of Infinity!
Not us. We die like All of You
Just slower.
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But there’s a really, really simple answer to that earthquake thing you mentioned. — Ox
Oh body unstainable by age! / Oh Crown Jewel of creation!
“You are not an immortal who is ageless / you are an immortal who is lifeless.”
(So writes SonataH,)
It is brilliantly said.
For these beings who can / endure forever
So long as they are not harmed,
Grow so fearful for their infinity / they dare not live at all.
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And yet…
We are now to think /that these fearful, ageless, True Immortals
Have moved to Santa Clara? / To live among earthquakes,
And near the new / and growing
Powers of Google, Apple, Genentech?
There are paradoxes here.
Who can set them clear? — Kate
My apologies in advance for this very long (and, no doubt, typographical error-ridden) post. My only excuse is that it closes a rather wide circle, and ends by locating the new home of the secret society of True Immortals.
I would like to open by quoting something Oxadrenals once said to me: “Hafeems are mortals; they just die more slowly than most people.” When I stated in my last post that SENSF is run by mortals alone, I meant to exclude the category of True Immortals, but not that of Hafeem. Let me now explain in detail.
On July 19th, I posted a photograph of a man I claimed in a subsequent post to be a possible Hafeem working as a venture capitalist for life extension projects, including SENSF. The evidence I presented then was slim to non-existent, as several readers noted. I did have additional information, however, regarding the Hafeem I shall call “W.”
As you know, when Glenn set off on his doomed quest, he left two clues for Flyss to find: a photo of a man reflected in the mirror room and anagrams pointing to Aubrey de Grey. What I did not mention is that a week after Glenn’s death the man who’d provided those clues contacted us. To be more precise, he contacted Oxadrenals. His motivation was perhaps double: Remorse for what had happened to Glenn, and increasing fear for his own safety.
To explain his fear, I must give a slight bit of background for those who have not followed this blog closely: Oxadrenals has several times (most recently, yesterday) noted that the great society of Immortal Illuminati has no love for him and his organization of Hafeems. In recent months, that secret society has departed many of its longstanding facilities (as described here and here.) Though we have not known for certain where they departed to, we have been in possession of clues that point toward, among other places, Santa Clara County, California.
And that is also where the SENS foundation is.
W had recently begun to sense the presence of True Immortals near his own home town. It was something of an intuition, the suffocating sensation of a great and secretive force coming closer and growing in strength. Up until then, he’d lived as an isolated Hafeem, aware of Oxadrenal’s group, but unwilling to join. He has now joined Oxadrenals, and is in hiding.
Once he was safely out of harms way, I posted his photo, as already described, and stated that he was a Hafeem. My purpose was to test whether True Immortals are reading this blog. (This occurred before we stumbled upon another way to test that question.) The fact that no secret searches were made of his house, no questions asked at the places he frequented or the foundations to which he contributed, adds additional confirmation that our blog is not known to True Immortals, and, in consequence, that SENSF itself is not infiltrated by them.
It does appear, however, that more than one Hafeem is involved. There is the man we have been speaking about in this post, and at least one other. This only makes sense, for Hafeems, no less than us, have a vital stake in life extension.
And it also appears that we may know where the True Immortals have relocated to: Santa Clara County.
Admittedly, this raises as many questions as it answers. – Stephen
(Thread continued here.)
As I mentioned in my preceding post, we had an unexpected opportunity to test whether the True Immortals are reading our blog, and found evidence that they are not. As an additional consequence of this, I believe we can safely state that the SENS foundation is not infiltrated by True Immortals.
I had previously posted an egregious series of attacks on the SENSF. I now apologize for doing so. Though I don’t disagree with absolutely everything I wrote, I certainly went overboard. But I did so with a purpose: that of drawing the attention of SENSF members. Were there any True Immortals involved with the foundation, they certainly would have become aware of this blog. Therefore, I think we can now be confident that SENS is run by mortals alone.
My next post will be very long. Not only will I provide confirming evidence for the statements made here, I shall reveal a number of important facts we have kept secret until now, and that answer, or suggest answers to, a number of vital questions. — Stephen
“But we shall not post them there. We refrain on purpose, to show our respect for their secrets, to bury in this blog a message that they can read when at last they do discover us: We shall not expose anything about you. Google may be a threat to you, but we are not.”
I know you guys are going overboard to reassure those nice folks you call the secret society of immortal Illuminati. But there’s one big, bad problem.
Me.
Not that I’m so big and bad. More Little Red Riding Hood, myself. But those guys hate me. And when they discover this blog, seeing my mug on it isn’t going to make them happy. — Ox
As Strattera explained, he and Flyss installed a re-broadcasting device on the video feed they’d found behind the door off the mirror room. Though we next claimed on this blog that they were traveling to the remote site itself to take photographs, we actually have far too much respect for the capacities of True Immortals to imagine for a moment that we could investigate that site directly without being perceived by them. Instead, we decided to take the far more humble route of triggering a reaction at the remote site without visiting it, and view the reaction through the rebroadcast tap.
At this point in our process, we unexpectedly discovered that Google Maps posts a street-level view of the remote building. (This is probably no accident. More on that subject soon.) We capitalized on this fact to test of whether the Immortals are reading this blog. Had they been, the “live blogging posts” should have triggered some form of response. True, it is possible that they already knew Google possesses detailed photos of their trap. But if so, they would be unlikely to maintain a trap there; in any case, we had carried through enough manipulation of the Google imagery to make our photographs appear original.
When there was no reaction whatsoever to the live blogging posts, we cast about for a way to “cast a stone in the water” without having to walk up to the edge of the pond. This we accomplished by means of an action that is slightly illegal and is therefore not detailed here. (FYI, it involved nothing more nefarious than a small misuse of the emergency response system, and we have made an anonymous financial contribution that should more than offset the costs we incurred.) We additionally ensured that it was adequately telegraphed in advance by having it announced over police radio, in the confidence that they would monitor police frequencies if only to avoid accidental detection by police conducting unrelated operations.
The result was impressive: A sizable fleet of black limousines arrived, and more than a dozen people in blue & black uniforms poured out of the building and departed via the limousines.
Yes, we have photos. But we shall not post them there. We refrain on purpose, to show our respect for their secrets, to bury in this blog a message that they can read when at last they do discover us: We shall not expose anything about you. Google may be a threat to you, but we are not. (continued in my next post) — Stephen
As Flyss promised, I’m going to fill in some details on our recent exercise in disinformation. Stephen will then explain the reasons behind our deception, and what we learned.
As you may recall, when Flyss and I, accompanied by our instructor, broke into the hidden room inside the Veteran’s War Memorial, we found a video feed showing an area clearly not in San Francisco. We claimed on this blog that the feed had to be from somewhere in the Central Standard Time zone of the US, but that was a small piece of misdirection; in fact, direct evidence pointed to the Mountain Standard Time zone. Too much evidence, in fact. Without going into the details, whomever had left the feed running had intended us to find out where it was from.
They were not necessarily after us. Rather, the running video feed seems to have been a kind of remote booby-trap left behind by the society of immortals for anyone who might have been following clues that led to the hidden room. There was a tripwire set to signal entry. The Blue&Blacks could then move into position at the remote point, and ambush whomever was seeking them when they arrived there. (Presumably, they didn’t wish to simply kill their pursuers, as they could have done by setting a bomb in the hidden room, but rather interrogate them. Or, they might simply not wished to operate in downtown San Francisco. In either case, setting up an operation at a remote location of their choosing would have clear advantages.)
In a previous post, we showed the rather frightening looking human-sized box left open in that room, a box one that appeared to have been used for purposes of torture. Actually, it was most like placed there precisely to force our investigation of it. It could easily be anticipated the past occupants of that room that we would feel compelled to check the lock on the box’s door. Therefore, that lock was the perfect place for a tripwire. (It wasn’t easy to find, but we were looking for it, and found the signaling device.)
We next claimed on this site to be searching for, and then arriving at the imaged location. What we actually did, though was rather different. Before leaving the room, we attached a re-broadcast tap on the video feed.
Stephen will now pick up the thread, as much of this was his idea. — Strattera
How could we manage to stand around out here snapping photos of what must be intended as a trap without being caught? Because we never were there.
We weren’t in a car driving by, or in a rented room with a long distance view, nor did we send in a drone or a trained dog with a video camera.
We obtained the images using the street-level view feature of Google maps.
Whyy does this isolated, abandoned building have a street-level view on Google maps? That’s an interesting question.
To any True Immortals who may read this: Google might very well be your enemy. But we are not! (Thread continued here by Strattera and then by Stephen.) — Flyss
For the last two weeks, we’ve been engaged in considerable time shifting of our posts, as well as other deceptions. When Flyss finishes up her story of the remotely monitored building, I’ll unravel what we’ve done, and why. – Stephen
Continued from my last post. We continue, live on location from the remotely monitored building that truly must be intended as a trap.
Remember that weird view from the “front” camera?
Here’s the explanation.
Apparently, what we’re looking at is a patch of sidewalk and asphalt, with shadows.
This last view is my favorite: Three cameras plus an interesting backdrop!
But the real question of interest is this: How can we manage to stand around out here snapping photos of what must be intended as a trap?
To any True Immortals who may be reading this: We are not mocking you. Rather, we are doing this out of respect, as you’ll soon see. (Continued in our next post) — Flyss
So here we are, live on location, uploading images from a building whose environs are monitored by video feed from deep inside the San Francisco Veterans War Memorial, formerly home to a secret society of immortals. As all reasonable people would agree, this must be a trap. Nonetheless, here we are, snapping photos and posting them online.
Our first live photo shows the southeast camera:
(click on the image to enlarge)
To recap, the view from that camera, previously posted on this site, looks like this:
The match is obvious, isn’t it?
Here’s a nice view of the west and southwest cameras respectively:
Here’s a closeup view:
The hood visible on these cameras nicely explains the “awning” that appears to get in the way, especially on this view:
(continued in our next post) — Flyss
Of course we know it must be trap. There’s no other reasonable explanation for why they’d make it so easy for us to break in, and then leave a running video feed for us to discover.
Which is why tomorrow morning at around 10 am we will be live blogging from the site. — Flyss
Though it is remarkable that yet again we’ve “invited” Google into our house, so to speak, Google simply offers tools too unique and powerful to pass up.
I believe that the location shown in the surveillance cameras is here:
(For obvious reasons, I’m suppressing the actual address)
For orientation: North is directly up on the page. The dumpster seen in the southeast view is toward the bottom right of the photo. — Stephen
P.S. Just as with the “Hafeem Venture Capitalist,” I’m doing something more than simply a visual match up. But for reasons that will become clear, I can’t currently post on what additional information I’m using.
No, I don’t recognize him. But unlike what your readers seem to think, we can’t recognize each other at a glance. We don’t share a magic code ring, or a stamp in invisible ink on the forehead, or a glow-in-the-dark aura. Real life’s not half so fun as fantasy, sorry.
Now that you point him out to me, though, I’ll look into it. I have two new female secret agent buddies I can detail to the task. You might have heard of them. Their code names are “Flyss” and “Strattera.”
Just kidding. I’m keeping them out of Silicon Valley for now. Too dangerous! Obviously you have some other information beside the photos, because there’s no way to recognize that the guy in the mirrored room is the same person as the guy with the ocean behind him. What gives?– Ox
P.S. Oh, I see you admit that something gives, you just don’t say what.
I agree there’s not much to go on in the photos I posted to prove they’re the same person. I have some additional linking information that I’m reluctant to publish just yet.
The man photographed against ocean backdrop is a major player in financial aspects of the physical immortality movement, raising money for SENSF and several other organizations with similar goals, and also assisting independent life extension researchers. He’s reclusive, but not really in hiding; this particular photo is from a fund-raising brochure. (The blurring rectangle was already there, and explained in the brochure via a whimsical reference to “our mystery venture capitalist.”)
Oxadrenals, do you know him? I rather suppose from your silence that you do not.
Do we have any reason to think he’s a Hafeem? No, not really. However, based on his appearance, he’s not a True Immortal, and, yet he likely has some connection to the immortals who used to occupy the San Francisco Veterans War Memorial. Keep in mind that Glenn had that photo in his possession, and left it for Flyss to find on an encrypted USB key. If Glenn thought the man of sufficient importance to highlight in that way, I believe we should take him seriously as well. — Stephen
Not much to go on, though the clothes and hair look similar. Who is he? — Flyss
Strattera here. Flyss is asleep after the adrenaline rush of the last three days. So I’ll be the one posting the images. I also have a few comments to offer.
Here’s the best image of the full screen.
Secret Society of Immortals Surveillance
“Front (north?) view: Very dry ground, sparse vegetation. The camera is high up, which explains the poor resolution. It is also pointing almost straight down, and it’s partly blocked by a nearer structure (the roof of the building? An awning? A gutter?) Hence the peculiar shape of the ground.
Southwest view: Note the coniferous trees in the distance.
SouthEast facing view: Coniferous trees again. Unfortunately, the name on the dumpster is unreadable.
West facing view: I think they may be white pines. Here, the surveillance camera is partly hidden by an awning or curved roof:
Based on context, I would say that he surveillance cameras are monitoring an area with a dry climate where white pine grows. The images are time stamped two hours later than when we were there in the surveillance booth, which suggests a two hour time difference. This would be in the Central time zone, then.
Also, based on height of the cameras, I would assume this is at least a two story building. The parking lot rules out a single family dwelling, but perhaps it’s a small apartment or office building.
I hope some of this information helps.
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It’s been an incredible several days (a week?) already with our trainer. This is an amazing gift. Thank you Oxadrenals, for setting up matters so that my overly courageous sweetheart, Flyss, can accept the idea of taking precautions. She respects Peter immensely, as do I, and his vast experience has humbled even dear Flyss. He also has no trouble at all working with two girls, and when he found out that I used to be man he just shrugged. He’s a true professional. — Strattera
Flyss, could you also post closeups of the other three surveillance images? I’ve done a lot of narrowing down with what we have, but I need to winnow further.
As always, I welcome the assistance of our readers. Can anyone help identify the place? It’s clearly nowhere near Herbst Theater at all.– Stephen
“Not one of the four images pictured on the security camera is from anywhere near the Veterans War Memorial.”
Based on what is shown on that surveillance camera, I agree: It’s not monitoring the immediate locale, but rather somewhere far away. That gives one pause, doesn’t it.
I’ve been searching for a location to match the images, and I’m making some progress. More soon. — Stephen
P.S. Help from our readers is always welcome!
Continued from my last post.
On the opposite side of the room from that hideous box, there’s a video monitor mounted on the wall. The cables to it were cut off, but when Strattera patched the connection back, a set of surveillance images appeared on the screen. I half expected it to show us looking at a surveillance screen, considering that we’d just come from a hall of mirrors. But it was a much more conventional display. Here it is with the lights off in the room.
I didn’t like being in that room with the lights off.
Here’s a lights on view:
A prosaic setting.
As you can see, the screen shows four images. They’re live, in that the trees moved a bit, as if blown by the wind. But no people appeared.
Of the four images, I found this one the most intriguing:
What are we looking at?
Regardless of that, here’s the remarkable fact: Not one of the four images pictured on the security camera is from anywhere near the Veterans War Memorial.
Who were they monitoring from inside this room? — Flyss
[additional photos here]
Continued from my last post.
If the hall of mirrors room itself is almost too cute, the room behind the door is stark, bare and frightening.
When I finished picking the lock and we stepped inside, the first thing we saw was this highly disturbing object:
This box locks from the outside only. The switches on the seat sometimes turn on the light, and sometimes they do nothing. Learned helplessness?
There are scuff and scratch marks all over the various surfaces. We didn’t find any blood, but the box seems to ring with screams. Actually, you can scream all you want from inside, as it’s absolutely soundproof.
What did they do to people in here? (Continued in my next post.) — Flyss
Continued from my last post.
In the mirrored room at last! Here’s another photo, facing the opposite way and showing the door in reflection. (You can just see my camera peeking out.)
And here’s a closeup of the door itself.
More photos here.
We were completely alone and undisturbed down there, hushed in the quiet beneath the empty auditorium. That was a good thing, because the lock on the door was tricky, especially since I wasn’t allowed to leave a single scratch. It took me nearly ten minutes.
And then we went in.
(Continued in my next post) — Flyss
Continued from my last post.
The Veterans War Memorial is across from San Francisco City Hall.
Apparently, if you set off* a string of big firecrackers in a government building, the typical plain-vanilla security guard working the desk in a boring old Veterans Memorial across the street will run to look out the window just like you and I would. And he’ll keep looking too as the volleys of police cars drive up.
While he was so engaged,we took a quick stroll down this short corridor:
and enter here:
(The door was locked, but we’d spent half the day picking an identical lock that protects mops in the Herbst Theater bathroom, so it was easy.
Down a short flight of steps, and there you are: in the famous mirrored room!
It looks like a Prohibition-era cocktail lounge, doesn’t it? But the drawings on the wall include such people as Winston Churchill and Franklin Roosevelt, all famously claimed to be Illuminati. No wonder Glenn was interested in the place! But it seems to have been entirely abandoned by the immortal Illuminati.(Continued in my next post) — Flyss
*We used an expensive professional quality delayed detonator to set off some garden variety M-80 firecrackers. I imagine this may leave the FBI a little confused.
Continued from my last post.
Here’s the Veteran’s War Memorial from the outside.
The UN Charter was signed in there, which, if you’re a conspiracy theorist, is an important fact. Currently, the building holds Herbst Theater, which a rather beautiful place. (Do Immortal conspirators like their furnishings fancy?)
The mirrored room is known to be beneath the theater, where it was once used as a cocktail bar. More recently, however, it has been locked and virtually forgotten. There’s not even a mention of it on the San Francisco Veterans War Memorial website.
We’ve discovered the door that leads down to it, but the door itself is off limits to the public. The security, however, is limited to a single, rather bored security guard who doesn’t even have any CCTV screens to help out. (We’re starting with an easy job. Not yet ready to rob the Louvre.)
Our instructor Peter rehearsed us in a dozen ways of getting down there. Some were quite violent, others benign but extremely technical. The method we actually employed was simple and direct. (continued in my next post) — Flyss
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