Routes to physical immortality

By Soraya. September 19th, 2010

Immortal Illuminati SymbolI, Soraya, think it appropriate to bring to a full post a discussion among readers that was carried on within comments, so that more can see it.

Readers had proposed various middle ways between mortality for almost all (the status quo) and immortality for almost all (the most radical alternative.) We concur.

We do understand and recognize that “indefinite life extension” will in time come to all the world. But, as we have discussed with certain members of the SENS foundation, it shall most naturally arrive gradually and in stages: the prevention or cure of this illness or that, the slowing of deterioration in the brain, the skin, the heart; a continued development, in other words, of the progress medicine has already made. We support such work. Such gradual development is most ideal.

As a second, less preferable, but nonetheless graduated path, we the elders might pick and choose worthy individuals to become fully immortal. The responsibility and burden of such choice would weigh heavy upon us, but we would bear that weight for the benefit of all.

In turn, such careworn deliberate limitation of immortality is vastly preferable to that which the project under discussion seeks to offer: wholesale immortality to all who wish it. For this would bring the terrors I have already mentioned.

Many have noted that this “immortality project” is unlikely to succeed. However, though our own first reaction is to agree, experience tells us not to underestimate “Oxadrenals.” For all his flaws, he is greatly gifted too. And, moreover, The Eldest has taken it upon herself to become involved, and to protect him. We sense this as an indication “luck” or “destiny” may be on Oxadrenals side, for it is chance/destiny/luck that The Eldest worships, and she may surely see that which we do not.

It was also noted by readers that there are other kinds of immortals than ourselves, and many arduous spiritual paths to immortality. This we too believe, and welcome as our brothers and sisters all immortalized through these paths. It is the mass effect we fear, not the elevation of the few and worthy. — Soraya, ruler of the Blue&Blacks, co-originator, with Alexandros, of the Immortal Illuminati.


  1. SonataH says:

    Not all wish to be welcomed.

  2. Soraya says:

    Our welcome includes acceptance of your utter privacy; your indifference; your dislike; it is only acts of open hostility that would perhaps turn our welcome to some other greeting. Soraya

  3. SonataH says:

    Then I believe there will be no problem.

    • Noneness says:

      Know is the word you’re looking for. If you believe there will be no problem, then there room for doubt.

  4. c says:

    can’t you and ox try to reach a middle ground concerning this immortality project without involving bloodshed, destruction and death? i only say this because you value humanity so much perhaps more than humans themselves ever will to be a pivotal point of civilisation?

    Your fear seems to be a home grown illusion. There’s always going to be enough resources for everybody. For those who abuse mother earth’s resources will perish away due to the increasing vibration of the earth… if not, it will be the environment and animals who will end up harming humanity as a whole for the pollution in every level, we’ve gravely commited.

    I don’t think Ox is irresponsible to go o n a rampage to give out physical immortality to every body, maybe based on a selected number. Just my opinion… but don’t really know til he speaks out on this for himself….

  5. SonataH says:

    Can I ask which one of us you are talking to?

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